Cave Love Has Gained the Day- Harrell

Cave Love Has Gained the Day
Kelly Harrell 1929

Bear went Over The Mountain, The/Go In And Out The Window/Pig in the Parlor/Cave Love Has Gained the Day/ We're Marching Round the Levee/ We'll All Go Down To Rowsers

Traditional Old-Time Song and Breakdown

ARTIST: Kelly Harrell 1929

CATEGORY: Fiddle and Instrumental Tunes.

DATE: Melody circa 1762; lyrics "Bear Went" circa 1939 (Linscott); Earliest Date for Go in and Out the Window: 1915.

RECORDING INFO Bear Went Over The Mountain: 

A Bear Went Over the Mountain

Sm- For He's a Jolly Good Fellow; We Won't Go Home Till/Until Morning

Lorenz, Ellen J.(ed.) / Men's Get-Together Songs, Lorenz, Fol (1938), p122/#216
Glazer, Tom / Treasury of Songs for Children, Songs Music, Fol (1964/1981), p 30
Glazer, Tom. Let's Sing Fingerplays, CMS Records CMS 688, LP (1977), trk# A.03
Glazer, Tom. Glazer, Tom / Eye Winker, Tom Tinker, Chin Chopper. Fifty Musical Fin..., Doubleday/Zephyr Books, Bk (1973), p12
Hubbard, Frank Allen. Linscott, Eloise Hubbard (ed.) / Folk Songs of Old New England, Dover, Bk (1993/1939), p164 [1920-30s]

RECORDING INFO Go in And Out The Window: 

Go In and Out the Window [Me II-A10]

Rt-Breaking Sticks ; Cave Love Has Gained the Day
At- Go Round and Round the Valley
Ford, Ira W. / Traditional Music in America, Folklore Associates, Bk (1965/1940), p260b
Newell, William Wells / Games and Songs of American Children, Dover, sof (1963/1909), p128/# 63 (Go Round and Round the Valley)
Newell, William Wells / Games and Songs of American Children, Dover, sof (1963/1909), p229/#163 (Walking on the Levy)
Glazer, Tom / Treasury of Songs for Children, Songs Music, Fol (1964/1981), p 98
Bernie and Red. Oh What a Beauty, Crawley --, LP (198?), trk# A.01f
Cantrell, Mrs. Wesley. Solomon, Jack & Olivia (eds.) / Sweet Bunch of Daisies, Colonial Press, Bk (1991), p140 [1939] (Marching Around the Levee)
Chase, Richard. Chase, Richard (ed.) / American Folk Tales and Songs, Dover, sof (1971/1956), p191 [1930-40's] (We're Marching 'Round/Around the Levee/Level)
Glazer, Tom. Let's Sing Fingerplays, CMS Records CMS 688, LP (1977), trk# B.06
Glazer, Tom. Glazer, Tom / Eye Winker, Tom Tinker, Chin Chopper. Fifty Musical Fin..., Doubleday/Zephyr Books, Bk (1973), p26
Gunning, Sarah Ogan. Land of Yahoe, Rounder 8041, CD (1996), trk# 3b
Hartley, Savannah. Randolph, Vance / Ozark Folksongs. Volume III, Humorous & Play-Party ..., Univ. of Missouri, Bk (1980/1946), p338/#538D [1941/10/23]
Hubbard, Frank Allen; Family (Children). Linscott, Eloise Hubbard (ed.) / Folk Songs of Old New England, Dover, Bk (1993/1939), p 9 [1920-30s]
Millsaps, Ramona. Skip to My Lou, Pine Breeze 004, LP (1977), trk# A.06 [1975]
Parker, Maggie Hammons. Hammons Family. A Study of a West Virginia Family's Traditions, Library of Congress AFS L65-L66, LP (1973), trk# 19 [1970/09/20] (We're Marching 'R
Short, Lillian. Randolph, Vance / Ozark Folksongs. Volume III, Humorous & Play-Party ..., Univ. of Missouri, Bk (1980/1946), p337/#538C [1941/09/11] (Round and Round the Lev
Unidentified Children. Randolph, Vance / Ozark Folksongs. Volume III, Humorous & Play-Party ..., Univ. of Missouri, Bk (1980/1946), p337/#538B [1921/12/20] (Round and Round
Wilbur, Marie. Randolph, Vance / Ozark Folksongs. Volume III, Humorous & Play-Party ..., Univ. of Missouri, Bk (1980/1946), p336/#538A [1921/12/20] (Round and Round the Lev
Wills, Jim and May. Rosenbaum, Art (ed.) / Folk Visions & Voices. Traditional Music & So...., Univ. of Georgia, Bk (1983), p 52 [1982/03/24] (We're Marching 'Round/Around t
Go In and Out the Window (tune) - Traditional/Chapman, Owen "Snake"

Chapman, Owen "Snake". Up in Chapman's Hollow, Rounder 0378, CD (1996), trk# 10

RECORDING INFO We're Marching Round The Levee: 
Cantrell, Mrs. Wesley. Solomon, Jack & Olivia (eds.) / Sweet Bunch of Daisies, Colonial Press, Bk (1991), p140 [1939] (Marching Around the Levee)
Chase, Richard. Chase, Richard (ed.) / American Folk Tales and Songs, Dover, sof (1971/1956), p191 [1930-40's] (We're Marching 'Round/Around the Levee/Level)


RECORDING INFO Pig in the Parlor: And that Was Irish Too (Chubby Checker 1931)That Was Irish Too [Me II-A12]

Rt - Pig in the Parlor
At - And That Was Irish Too
Surber, Elsie. Morris, Alton C. / Folksongs of Florida, Univ. Florida, Bk (1950), p445/#239 [1934-39]

RECORDING INFO We'll All Go Down To Rowsers
We'll All Go Down to Rowsers

Rm - We Won't Go Home Till/Until Morning
Ford, Ira W. / Traditional Music in America, Folklore Associates, Bk (1965/1940), p247
Hammontree, Doney. Ozark Folksongs, Rounder 1108, CD (2001), trk# 16 [1941/12/12]
Harlan, E. R.. Pound, Louise (ed.) / American Ballads and Songs, Scribner, Sof (1972/1922), p237/#119 [1914]
Lane, Rose Wilder. Randolph, Vance / Ozark Folksongs. Volume III, Humorous & Play-Party ..., Univ. of Missouri, Bk (1980/1946), p319/#528B [1930/05/16]
Payne, Frank. Randolph, Vance / Ozark Folksongs. Volume III, Humorous & Play-Party ..., Univ. of Missouri, Bk (1980/1946), p319/#528D [1933/05/01]
Sharp, Clyde. Randolph, Vance / Ozark Folksongs. Volume III, Humorous & Play-Party ..., Univ. of Missouri, Bk (1980/1946), p318/#528A [1928/08/14]
Smithers, Rena. Randolph, Vance / Ozark Folksongs. Volume III, Humorous & Play-Party ..., Univ. of Missouri, Bk (1980/1946), p319/#528C [1934/04/17]
 

FLOATING LYRICS: "Cindy" "Jinny Go Round and Around," "Liza Jane,"

CLOSELY RELATED TO: "For He's a Jolly Good Fellow," "Marlbourouck"

OTHER NAMES: "We'll Dance a Jig for the Irish," “Bear went Over The Mountain," "Go In And Out The Window," "We're Marching 'Round the Levee,"  "Pig in the Parlor," "We Won't Go Home till Morning!" "Go Round and Round the Valley," "Cave Love Has Gained the Day" "Breaking Sticks" "We'll All Go Down To Rowsers"
 
SOURCES: Kuntz; Brown; Mudcat; Randolph; Linscott, pp. 164-165, "A Bear Went Over the Mountain" (1 text, 1 tune); Pankake-PHCFSB, p. 43, "The Bear Went Over the Mountain" (1 text, tune referenced)

NOTES: This melody is known as the very popular melody of "For He's a Jolly Good Fellow" etc. which was originally associated with the French "Malbrouk" song, the words of which appear in a collection of street songs, Chansons, Vaudevilles et Ariettes Choisis par Duchemin, published by Valleyre, on p. 10 under the title La Mort de M. de Marlb'roug; BN. The collection is not dated but is believed to be between 1762 and 1778. The song is also said to have been referred to in a play by Charles Simon Favart, Les Rêveries Renouvellées des Grecs performed and printed in 1779 in Paris, p. 26; however, there is an error in the citation, and the reference cannot be confirmed in the copy at BN.

"Commencing early in 1783, there was a rash of printing of the Malbrouk melody under that title or the title Marlbourouck, or other variation, apparently brought about when a nurse sang it to one of Marie Antoinette's infants as a lullaby about 1781. Mercure de France lists at least 10 printings by different publishers in 1783-1784, not all with words, the earliest of which in May 31, 1783, p. 240, is entitled Air de Marlbourouck, with nine variations for piano, published by Levasseur, Paris; no copy has been located. Other French editions were printed without name of publisher, and there were many early foreign printings. Various contemporary French and other editions are at BN, COP, BM and JF."--(James J. Fuld, The Book of World-Famous Music, 4th ed., Dover, 1995, p. 231)

Two old time country recording with the melody appeared: "And that Was Irish Too" (Chubby Checker 1931) AKA "Pig in the Parlor" and Kelly Harrell carzy titled "Cave Love has Gained the Day." It was supposed to be: "Cause (Ca'se) Love has Gained the Day. Harrell's song is a version of Go in and Out the Window.

Here's an article about Harrell's Version from The Celestial Monochord; Journal of the Institute for Astrophysics and the Hillbilly Blues June 2005:

[Many massive volumes could be written about the musician-recordist relationship, but my favorite stories about these worlds colliding in the 1920's are about the engineers misunderstanding the song titles.

In the 1920's, record companies took a keen interest in southern "folk" musicians — by that, I mean generally amateur musicians who couldn't read music and who learned mostly traditional songs from family members or neighbors. These musicians were typically poor, rural people.

Now, the guys who showed up to record them came from a very different set of worlds — urban, middle- or upper-class, well-educated, and often with rather high-brow musical tastes. Legend has it that they were sometimes appalled at the music they were recording, and mystified that these records often sold extremely well.

At a February 1929 recording session for Victor records, Kelly Harrell sang a song entitled 'Cuz Love Has Gained the Day, but his pronunciation sounds more like 'Caze Love Has Gained the Day.

The engineers recording him that day apparently misunderstood and rather underestimated Harrell, possibly reflecting their attitude toward this Virginia textile factory worker. Their paper work (as well as the label of the record that was actually released to the public) identifies the song as "Cave Love Has Gained the Day." Despite what Harrell actually sang, here are the lyrics that the Victor representatives thought they heard:

Go find your lover like I did
Go find your lover like I did
Go find your lover like I did
Cave love has gained the day

I'd give ten cents to kiss her
I'd give ten cents to kiss her
I'd give ten cents to kiss her
Cave love has gained the day] End of Article

Various sets of lyrics appeared to the other variants with this form and melody:

We Have a Pig in the Parlor

We have a pig in the parlor,
We have a pig in the parlor,
We have a pig in the parlor,
     And he is Irish, too.
     And he is Irish, too.
     And he is Irish, too.
 

We're Marching Round the Levee

We're marching around the levee,
We're marching around the levee,
We're marching around the levee,
For the right shall gain today.

Go in and Out the Window

Go in and out the window
Go in and out the window
Go in and out the window
Since you have gained the day.

The Bear Went Over The Mountain

1. The bear went over the mountain
The bear went over the mountain
The bear went over the mountain
To see what he could see.

To fit the exact "For He's A Jolly Good Fellow" you'll need to repeat some line. The above songs could be and sometimes are sung that way.

To see what he could see
To see what he could see
The bear went over the mountain
To see what he could see.

This song melody and form have come a long way since the French "Marlbourouck" in 1762 spawning not only "A Bear Went Over the Mountain," and "Pig in the Parlor" but "Cave Love Has Gained the Day." Fact is truly stranger than fiction.

*CAVE LOVE HAS GAINED THE DAY- Kelly Harrell (Ca'se Love Has Gained the Day)

Go find your lover like I did
Go find your lover like I did
Go find your lover like I did
*Cave love has gained the day

I'd give ten cents to kiss her
I'd give ten cents to kiss her
I'd give ten cents to kiss her
Cave love has gained the day

I'd walk fifty miles to see her (3x)
Cave love has gained the day

I've got some candy to give her (3x)
Cave love has gained the day

I'll try to take it over Saturday (3x)
Cave love has gained the day

I got her a whole dime's worth (3x)
Cave love has gained the day

That's the way I beat the other fellow (3x)
Cave love has gained the day

We'll fly to get married at Christmas (3x)
Cave love has gained the day.

*Cause